I’m often asked what questions people ask me most frequently. The answer is some variation of this family of questions:
- How much does an advocate charge?
- What is the hourly rate for health or patient advocates?
- How much money do patient advocates make?
- How much money do patient advocates get paid?
- What is the average amount patient advocates charge?
We’ll begin by answering with other questions (bad form, but it makes our point…)
- How much does it cost to take a vacation?
- What does it cost to go to college?
- How much more can I make if I get a new job?
Think about those questions for a minute: they are actually kind of silly. In fact, there is only ONE answer; the same answer to the questions about advocates, cost, and pricing.
It depends.
So of course, now you want to know… “Depends on what?” There are two answers:
It Depends: Answer #1:
What advocates charge varies based on services, niche, education and experience, certifications, professionalism, and geographic location:
Services: Advocates who sit by a hospital bedside don’t charge the same as advocates who negotiate hospital bills, who don’t charge the same as an advocate who gets an insurance claim approved, who don’t charge the same as the advocate who is on retainer with an elderly person who needs accompaniment to her doctor appointments month after month. Even an average here wouldn’t be helpful.
Niche/Specialty: Advocates who work with Solos (Elder Orphans) have a specific expertise. As do advocates who reconcile and negotiate medical bills. As do advocates who focus on cancer care, or those whose expertise is mental health or pediatrics, or any other niche – the name for a specialty area. Even averaging within a niche wouldn’t be helpful because all the other factors listed here must also be taken into account. (Learn more about choosing a niche.)
Education and Experience: A nurse who is providing medical-navigation services can charge more than someone who is not a nurse. A doctor who is focusing on cancer advocacy can charge more than a nurse with the same experience. But a doctor or nurse usually won’t be able to charge more than someone who worked in hospital billing for an insurer for a decade or more if the client needs cost-managing services. And long-time advocates with no clinical experience can charge more than a nurse who is just getting started in advocacy. So – again – no way to average.
Certifications: This is fairly obvious: an advocate certified by a nationally respected certifying board can charge more than one who isn’t certified. This is true for any of the available certifications from the BCPA, to CCM, to CSA, and others.
Professionalism: Advocacy is a profession, not an hourly job. When you pay a lawyer, you pay her at a very high rate because she supplies you with information that stands up to public and legal scrutiny. When you pay a hairdresser, you pay her a high rate because you have to live with your hair and feel good about your appearance. When you pay a tax preparer, you’re hoping to stay out of hot water with the IRS. When people pay an advocate, they know you are managing two of the most important aspects of life: health and money. How much is that worth? And isn’t the profession of advocacy worth at least what the legal profession charges?
Geographic location: If you live and work in or near a larger city (New York, LA, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, others) you can charge more than if you live in a smaller city or a rural area. Just as housing and most goods are generally more expensive, so is a contract with an advocate.
It Depends: Answer #2:
What advocates charge is what patients are willing to pay them. This is probably even more of a factor than all those aspects of your practice listed above. Just like selling a house isn’t about the price of the house; rather, it’s what a buyer is willing to pay for it. Being hired for advocacy services occurs when that sweet spot of the value of what you offer is the same as someone is willing to pay.
You can see now what that original question of “how much do advocates charge?” is impossible to answer without “it depends.”
So what if we alter the questions a little to get to what most advocates REALLY want to know…
- How much should I charge for my advocacy work?
- What should my hourly rate be?
- How can I figure out my pricing as I launch my advocacy practice?
- Or … Am I charging the right amount? (Or should I be charging more?)
In fact, answering these questions involves math, and it’s math that actually takes into account all those factors listed above because it’s based on your own knowledge of yourself and your circumstances. That math is found
- In The Start and Grow Your Own Practice Handbook – which many people have, but not as many have read. (Is this you? If you own it, but haven’t read it, you must be waiting for osmosis?)
- In this course: Setting Your Prices, offered by the APHA sister site, PracticeUP!Online. It will walk you through YOUR math to help you determine exactly what you should be charging for your services.
- In your APHA membership: some supporting information is found in the Pricing and Financial Center.
The last important point to make here is this: never EVER quote an hourly rate to a potential client. The references above spell out the reason and make suggestions for what you do instead.
Such an important question shouldn’t be left to a quick answer. Your value, and the value of any other advocate’s work, isn’t the same. Your pricing shouldn’t be the same either.
This post updated June 2021.
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At the end of a conversation people want to know how much it cost. I found it useful to give a number. People will decide if they can afford the services. It comes down to cost versus perceived value.
I feel very comfortable in giving my rates and I do charge by the hour, with an eight hour retainer. Once our relationship is formed I will bill without the retainer. My clients (their adult children in most cases) have no problem paying me what I ask for. I have never had any of them feel I over-charge but I work hard for my clients. I am always on call and never promise them things I cannot deliver on. I can not take on any new clients at this time and my business is fairly new. I do not want to grow too fast but I hate turning business away. So far I have only hired a part-time person to do my bookkeeping. I’m really busy. I anticipated this after 2 or 3 years, I launched less than a year ago.
Keep up the great work! Remember to take care of yourself and your family first. Taking care of people and advocating is exhausting work. If you don’t balance work and family you can get in to a quandary. Thank you, for your dedication.
Wow, Carrie, that’s awesome that you are that busy in less than a year. I’m curious to know what your hourly rate and separate retainer fee are? Did you purchase the book that is offered on this website? I am launching a new advocacy business in the southwest and cannot figure out pricing. Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated. thanks, Jill
My daughter & I are considering starting an advocacy business. I was thinking we might charge $225.00 for the initial meeting to discuss services. If the clients want certain services then we would charge an hourly rate depending on the services chosen. What are your thoughts on this idea?
Irene, There are so many considerations that go into pricing your work, that no one can judge whether this is the right answer for you and your daughter. Further, figuring out your pricing is only a first step. After that you need to determine how you will charge people (what sort of “packages” you might choose.) You can learn more, and decide whether you’ve figured out your pricing well, here: Setting Your Prices
HI. I AM FUTURE NURSE ADVOCATE LOOKING ON ADVICE TO WHAT I SHOULD QUOTE CUSTOMERS. CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE?
THANKS
Kasmira,
Please read this post carefully. You’ll see that it would be impossible for us to provide you with a number that you can quote customers.
However – you can easily figure out yourself what to charge. Here’s a quick course for you to take that will help you come to exactly the right answer for you and your practice: https://courses.practiceuponline.com/courses/pricing-basics/
I agree with you Trisha. Through your blog, you have already given the answer. I just repeat the same. Patient advocates charges vary from person to person. It may rise if the concern advocate’s experience, education is higher than others.
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